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ethanol by MillMan (2.00 / 0) #12 Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 02:04:04 PM EST

IS contributing to the overall rise in food prices.

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And why is ethanol even being pursued? by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #13 Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 02:40:28 PM EST

Because fuel prices are going up, not because it burns "cleaner."

And I'll repeat, it's not the farmers who are to blame for this.

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correct by MillMan (2.00 / 0) #14 Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 02:45:27 PM EST

It isn't a solution because the energy ROI is only ~2x. The only feasible crops-for-fuel grow in the tropics, like palm oil. Of course they're all an ecological disaster regardless.

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HIPPIES! by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #15 Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 02:55:34 PM EST

GIVE ME COAL BURNIN' STEAMERS!

The solution does not exist. Well, it does, but nobody likes it because it's scary. Power = potential. Potential = terra'ist. So, we stick with stupid fossil fuels and various substitutes, all of which suck at least equally as much as the fossil fuels themselves.

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the solution by MillMan (2.00 / 0) #16 Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 03:08:43 PM EST

a decrease in population and a decrease in energy use per capita.

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Well, sure, if you're going for reasonable. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #18 Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 03:30:16 PM EST

But with the number of couples thinking five or more kids should be a god-given right for every married couple, and that each of those kids needs three TVs, four computers and seven hand-held devices before they reach age seven, and two cars by the time they reach seventeen, that's not going to happen.

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yep by MillMan (2.00 / 0) #22 Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 04:36:35 PM EST

starvation and war are on their way for the world's poorer countries.

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Which the US is doing its best to become. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #23 Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 04:59:03 PM EST

AH HA! So there IS a solution.

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sorta by MillMan (2.00 / 0) #24 Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 05:00:29 PM EST

we can retreat to a diet of corn and beans when the time comes. Bangladesh, not so much.

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: I'm an American. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #25 Thu May 01, 2008 at 07:00:18 AM EST

Why would I give a shit about some furriners?

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Not just the poor countries by dmg (2.00 / 0) #26 Thu May 01, 2008 at 07:29:52 PM EST

It's going to get interesting for the rich ones too.

80% depopulation is not going to be achieved without some suffering.
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